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Gordon J Milne

now that is an impressive little chart. it is almost enough to get me off my backside and write that technical best seller I've been wanting to write all these years.

ok, that was trifle sarcastic but it certainly makes one think.

so are you prepared to tell us which titles are in the top 12%?

John

Peter Cooper had an interesting post on his 'Beginning Ruby' at Apress two weeks ago. Here http://beginningruby.org/what-ive-earned-and-learned/.

joe

Your openness is refreshing! Thanks for sharing.

I'm curious what the breakdown is between ebooks and paper books, also, how many titles are are included in your dataset.

Chuck van der Linden

I'm told a large number of technical books never make back their advances.. (Obviously that doesn't apply in your case) so yeah I'd sure love to see other publishers put out their data as you have.

I know my wife's 'Testing Code Security' book has earned her royalties in addition to her advance, but then it is a bit of a niche book being not just about security, but testing as well. So I'm not sure where it would have ranked if on your chart without having her dig into records and find the info on number sold (plus some estimate of the initial production costs..)

Peter Cooper

@John: I suspect it was some of the FUD raised by commenters (including a couple of Dave's competitors) on my post that inspired this post. I'll try and link back to this as it's still getting a lot of traffic and this is great information.

Chris Adamson

Having written one book with the Prags and two elsewhere, my mental taxonomy is now "writing for Prags" versus "writing for free". Yes, between 10% royalty * coauthors * Amazon discounts * shrinking computer book market, it really is that bad.

Mike

Dave,

Are you counting titles that make $25k in both the $10-$25k range and the $25-$50k range. Based on your graph, it's a little hard to tell if and title that makes $25,493 versus a title that makes $25,997 are in the same group or in two groups. And likewise for the other overlapping categories. Or is this a rounding issue with your charting program?

Dave Thomas

Mike:

Each title appears in only one slice.

Richard Hamilton

I've started a small imprint, XML Press (http://xmlpress.net ), that focuses on publications for technical communicators. We use a very similar approach to Pragmatic Programmer, splitting revenue after direct expenses and up-front costs. We're just starting (2 books out, with more in the works over the next few months), so I don't have the wealth of data that Dave shows here. However, I can confirm that the actual share received by our authors is much better than they would see with a traditional 10% or 15% royalty.

Part of the confusion may be that comparing a traditional royalty percentage and a revenue sharing percentage is an apples and oranges comparison; they are percentages of different things. Even within the revenue sharing model there will be differences. For example, it's likely that a 50% revenue share with Pragmatic Programmers would yield a different result than a 50% revenue share with XML Press or someone else, because of discounting, actual costs to print, and other expenses.

What I try to do with our authors is give them as much detail as they want about the actual cost of printing books, the costs that get charged against revenue, and the pricing/discount structure. Then they can make an informed decision.

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